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Julie,
The point of the article was my sharing my growth out of that mindset. I was passing down hypervigilence (fear) and shame and those were the very things that I did not want for him.
As well, I went through great effort to communicate the approach that I am currently taking which is not the one that I used to take.
I didn't give him a "pep talk about discipline and consequences", I wrote, "Whether he learns or not (and I imagine he will), I will love him without condition and let him know that he might love himself in such a way as well." And I wrote, "Yet instead of intentionally increasing (“driving home”) the impact of his mistakes upon him, amplifying his emotional experience, or punishing him by heaping guilt upon him and me, I’ll embrace him and help him learn. I’ll walk with him through this valley." ..among other things that I thought (looks like maybe mistakenly) were clear in communicating the direction that I'm taking now, and the direction that I WAS going.
I think this is a great turn for you, Amie.
Ever since I read Captivating, by John and Stasi Eldridge, I've looked at parenting in a new way. I've tried to think about whether I'm wounding my child in the way I respond to her behavior or choices.
I'm learning to correct with more love and understanding. Thanks for writing this.
At 11/15/2007 04:34:00 PM, Julie
Sorry - I took the point of this as a way to instill self-discipline in a child. I didn't realize that this was your own story, I thought you were asking for comments on what was happening with the mom and child. I do appreciate the journey from shame to love and think that is a helpful way to grow. I guess my question was how this change is communicated to the child? How does the child change his perception of his mom and how she views him?
At 11/15/2007 05:37:00 PM, Amy
Amie, I thought your article was well done. I appreciate your transparency. I am on a similar journey with my own children and am encouraged to find others who have been or are currently on that path.
Julie, I was surprised at your initial comment. I was relieved that it was due to misunderstanding the original article. I still wonder as to the effectiveness of the tone. It seems that the same problem with parents trying to make a child into who they want her to be is reflected in the tone of your comments. I'm sure this was not your intention and I know this is a topic you feel very strongly about. Please have grace for those of us who are still journeying, learning and growing as persons and as parents.
I was very idealistic about how I would be as a mother...before I had children. Since then, I've learned that it can be very difficult and I don't always respond as I should. Like Amie, if I live in guilt, it really doesn't benefit me or my children. So, I work at forgiving myself. I also work at communicating to my children about my own journey. I ask for forgiveness a lot.
At 11/15/2007 07:28:00 PM, Jemila Kwon
Yes Amy, I think asking for forgiveness is an important part of a relationship with one's kids. I feel that children are innately forgiving when parents sincerely approach them and ask for it, and what is needed for intimate relationships, including with kids is not perfection, but a culture of giving and receiving love, grace and forgiveness, as well as working toward new solutions and approaches that enhance everyone's well being. Laughter helps too :)!
A book I like is Liz Pantly's No Cry Discipline Book -- it has a very gentle, down-to-earth tone, lots of practical ideas from making socks talk to parenting with an eye to the future, even in things like teaching your two-year-old to load the dishwasher. Pantly's perspective is that if you do the right thing 70% of the time you'll be able to have a happy family and raise kids who turn out well. I appreciate the humility and hope and grace encompassed in that figure of 70% although of course I'd rather be perfect ;)
Sarah,
Thinking about the effects on our children by our actions is being mindful and I'm on board with that! It's difficult (for me - though I'm working on it) to make mistakes parenting without feeling fear and shame. Those things really stunt the ability to grow as a parent in my experience. I celebrate this new awareness - I'm so grateful!
Julie,
One of the many points that I brought up was my wanting him to learn to discipline himself, yet these lessons are so hard to watch him learn. Truly the greatest teacher for him is life itself, and as I transform from "hypervigilant" to "mindful" I am more and more comfortable with allowing him to learn at his own pace. Efforts at forcing anything only made things worse for us both. I feel much less fearful in letting him make the mistakes that are his to make.
I think that the most notable and obvious change was that I (and hubby) didn't punish him. Punishment will have validated his fears and compounded his self-loathing. We ended up working together to put a plan in place that would help him reach the goals that he wanted to reach. If this plan doesn't work (though it has been so far), then we'll brainstorm something else. I hope that we have successfully shown that we are on his team, and not judges in a higher court.
Amy,
It is comforting to know that I am not alone in this journey. I asked him to forgive me, because I had been one of the largest contributors for his feeling the way that he was feeling. Poor guy, he had dug quite a hole trying to do it all himself and experiencing the inner turmoil that comes from needing help but not being able to get it. In working to forgive myself, I find myself often repeating Dr Phil's "When you know better, you do better." Sometimes that seems so trite in view of the size of my error, you know? Interesting (to me) in reflection though, is that the grander the mistake, the grander the opportunity to learn something really life changing.
Jemila,
I so agree! Unconditional love isn't taught with words - but actions. I like Jim Fay's "Love and Logic Parenting". He teaches the importance of parenting with empathy. I wasn't utterly disconnected from my child before, but really being mindful of empathy as a practice helped me to wake up to what my son was going through.
Everybody :-)
I think that we are perfect just the way we are - mistakes and all.. What an awesome support group here.
Amie
So where did the kid learn to feel shame at a low grade? From the mom who tied her approval and love to his performance? Did she not get that what the kid needs here is love and unconditional acceptance from mom and not a pep talk about discipline and consequences? Perhaps the mom could figure out a way to encourage him in who he is and support his strengths instead of teaching him shame for not being who she wants him to be.