Thursday, February 14, 2008
Authority over men?
posted by Julie at 12:04 PM
My first reaction involved a word beginning with the letter "f" that I'm not even certain we're allowed to say on this blog. ;)
I also wonder how much further this is going to be taken - are they eventually going to refuse to be operated on by female doctors? To pull over for female police officers? To climb aboard buses driven by women? To allow their sons to be educated by female teachers?
I'm sorry, but these sort of rules don't have anything to do with Christianity (or maybe they do, and I just need to turn in my ID card? :O )
Wow -- that's crazy.
I guess with it being a private school they have the freedom to make those kinds of decisions. However, the doctrine behind that decision is just so screwed up!!!
You have got to be kidding me! Is there no female staff at the school? Do they have to obey their mothers? (Oh, yeah. Guess that one falls under the 10 commandments loophole for women.) Like lydia, I think that's about all I can say with blog appropriate language.
Dittos to the first three comments, but I also have to give some serious props to the two male referees who refused to stay and ref the game after she was told to leave.
It's easy for a hierarchal man to bellow on about his rule over women and his refusal to let a woman "tell him what to do". For another man to stand up against that kind of talk and show real respect to a woman in defiance of the prevailing attitudes wherever they may be requires true courage. I lift my Diet Dr Pepper to these two men.
This is so over the top! I don't believe that women are under their husband's authority, but even if I did, it makes no sense to allow that belief to bleed into every aspect of life. Are the male employees at that school saying that they will never be under the "authority" of a woman? They'd have to go start their own little community somewhere where there were no female doctors, teachers, or anything!
Oh my gosh - you have GOT to be kidding me. I would agree with the other commenter that asked about mothers and teachers. Especially if these are students, they will surely have female authority.
That is truly a twisted take on a sacred cow of male authority.
First of all, I find it ironic that a school named “St. Mary’s” would be so sexist. If Mary herself came to our time and wanted to speak in the presence of men/boys about her time with Jesus and the things of God, would they turn her away because she doesn’t have a penis? I mean, Catholics prayer to Mary, so they do place her in an authority position over men and women. Seems a little incongruent to me that they trust a woman to mediate between them and Jesus and ask her for spiritual guidance, but doubt that a woman can direct a boy’s soccer game!
I went to a catholic school for boys and girls, and nearly all the teachers, principals, gym teachers, and coaches were female all the way up through high school. So, I don’t think this bizarre incident represents the Catholic Church as a whole. There are really wonderful, devoted Christians in the Catholic Church that are committed to justice, peace, and equality. I think some men at this school let that pesky testosterone go to their heads and mistook it for sound doctrine. :)
So, I don’t think this bizarre incident represents the Catholic Church as a whole.
Neither do I. :)
No, it doesn't represent the entire RC church. The head of the sect was excommunicated by Pope Paul several years ago, if what was written in the article is correct.
My guess is that they do only employ male teachers in the high school.
Kudos to the other refs for also walking out.
I guess I feel this way about it ... do what ever you want to do. First, you have to go through a lot of convolutions to attach the name of Christ to teachings like that.
Second, you also have to be prepared to face the consequences of those decisions. If you want to have strange teachings, you're not going to be able to be like everyone else and play in the regular b-ball league (for instance).
Third, you/they also have to be prepared to face the consequences of your/their decisions on the people who are following you/them. So when those people are harmed by your/their foolish teachings you/they will be held accountable.
It all makes me really sad and angry and want to say that f word which rhymes with truck. But in the end, there's not much I can do about it the foolishness of men who are so afraid of women that they hide from them. Except refuse to live in fear or trembling or subordination to them. Men are not the boss of me.
First reaction: PO'd. But I really respect the refs that walked out with her.
We have to "Study to show yourself approved unto God a workman needeth not be ashamed but rightly dividing the Word of Truth"
We are living in a society that is misinterpreting the bible for their own self-righteous decisions the scripture that refers to women having authority over men says " But, I suffer not a woman to teach, not to usurp authority over men, but to be in silence.
Is specifically referring to the women of those times because they were out of order during times of worship and teaching.
And we could get the correct understanding by looking up the definition to usurp, it means when a woman takes authority that is not given to them, in other words when they are not ordained of God for leadership and they seek it of their own accord and for personal gain to rule. This is what the woman were doing and it does not please God.
It is also referring to spirituality for the most part
well, since nobody else said the "F" word, I guess I wont.....although that was my thought!
Everyone on this blog has posted responses that somehow show anger, disgust, or amazement (as did I), but I wonder how many of you women read that story, and it just hurts you to the core. Am I the only one who reads stuff like this all the time, and is torn to pieces? Sometimes I just wish I had a penis...
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