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Monday, June 19, 2006
It's a girl!
So the Right Rev. Katharine Jefferts Schori, bishop of Nevada, was just elected as the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church in the United States. Click here for an article from salon.com about (yes it is biased, but its good - thanks Lydia for the link).

I'm non-denom (unless emergent become a denomination) and always have been (except for a fling with the Baptist thing) and don't understand all the nuances of the high chuch structure. I understand that a lot of people have a lot of issues with Katherine (as she apparantly asks to be called), but as a women who completly supports women in ministry this is one huge step forward imho.

What are your thoughts?

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  • At 6/19/2006 10:29:00 PM, Blogger Michele L

    This is never a debate I jumped into, and somehow avoided even major details. However, the experience I have had in my own family was that women were not allowed to be in leadership! The funny thing was almost all of the women in my family did some form of leadership. They usually had their husband around (unless it was with the children's leadership)...you know just in case. I don't think they saw it that way...but if you ask me, it was just a formality, they were still "leading". I personally have absolutely no problem with women leading, and think that this is a positive move, not just for women.

  • At 6/20/2006 12:58:00 AM, Blogger sylvia skinner

    I read this too and thought it was pretty cool. Especially since I had just heard this crazy statistic from a leader in my denom who said that every church that ordained women as senior leaders had ordained homosexuals within 30 years--I think he stressed "every." Thinking that was just crazy, I did a little investigation on my own. I found out that it was a "crazy statistic" and couldn't be further from the truth. It was kind of a defensive measure tossed out there because I was challenging our denominational thinking on women in leadership. So, I chuckled this morning when I read that this was the first woman chosen for this position. Since I know they have already been struggling with what to do with homosexuals (and I'm not trying to make any point about that in particular) I thought that our denom leader had his statistic a little backwards...here he was trying to make a point about who knows what will happen if you let a woman lead...

  • At 6/20/2006 06:15:00 AM, Blogger mizliz

    I am just too thrilled!! Just when you begin to think the church 'will NEVER get it', God up and does something like this to help us right along. I suggest those of us who want to share our enthusiasm and prayers with the new Presiding Bishop-elect might email our congratulations to her: pboffice@episcopalchurch.org. I feel confident she is receiving many many emails that are not congratulatory or bearing the light of Christ or Christian love. Liz

  • At 6/20/2006 09:19:00 AM, Blogger lydia

    I just emailed them. Thanks for the link, mizliz.

  • At 6/20/2006 03:55:00 PM, Blogger Julie

    thanks Liz for the idea and the link!

  • At 6/21/2006 07:46:00 AM, Blogger From the Margins

    Love it! Thanks Sylvia for taking the time to research the 'woman' claim for your denominational leader. Keeping the conversation somewhere in the camp of truth helps!
    I agree with mizliz ... I love when God acts with Surprising Fun! I think Peterson would call it Playfully Imaginative!
    I too wrote a congrats email ...thanks for the link.

  • At 6/21/2006 02:27:00 PM, Blogger Melanie@Abri

    Amen and Hallelujah is all I can say.

  • At 6/21/2006 03:16:00 PM, Blogger Julie

    A woman named Dana asked me to post her thoughts here since she doesn't have an account. I thought they might add to the discussion. She wrote -

    "Hi Julie, I'm a regular reader. I'm emailing you because I have a comment on the K. Schori election but do not have a Blogger account. I always sign my name and so am not truly "anonymous" :) Feel free not to post it if it is not in accordance with the agreements about the blog.

    I also think it's great that they have elected a woman. However, it's not as simple as simply electing a woman. There are still some in the Anglican communion who think women shouldn't be ordained as priests at all, let alone consecrated as bishops. From what I gather (being an intersted outside observer of Anglicanism), most of the bishops and theologians don't see a problem with it theologically and have been moving toward it. However, the regular process that the Anglican Communnion has agreed upon to make these things official was bypassed +ten years ago in the matter of ordaining women. It's a procedural difficulty, and even many of those who are for women priests and bishops don't like what they view as "an end run" around the rules that would have brought women's ordination/consecration into being anyway. Bishop Schori's election poses problems for people who are trying to work within the system on behalf of women.

    One of the things about being emerging is a commitment to the church in all its forms, and that calls for respect for their processes, even if we think, as I do, that an ecclesiastical form of church is not what Jesus had in mind from the get-go. Yes, those anti-women's ordination people are missing something theologically; and they're not likely to be more open to listening if they think people might be throwing theology in their faces, so to speak."

  • At 6/21/2006 10:41:00 PM, Blogger From the Margins

    A short response to Dana: From your post I will be sure to ask my good female friend who is an ordained Episc. minister here in VA Beach about the procedural stuff. Never heard that take before, but I'd like to check it out.

    I'm not sure I agree with you about trying to be so 'procedurally careful' in hopes of gaining a listening ear to those who are not in agreement now. The issue of ordaining women (in America) is pretty "old" now ...going on 40+ years... and there's been a ton of theological material out there to read and to be listening to the conversation if one desires.
    I'm sure that there were those who encouraged Martin Luther to go the route of church protocol to not offend his Catholic brothers in Christ or others who suggested that Martin Luther King work through the political system to get civil rights amendments through the legislatures as a better means of getting certain people's "ear" rather than taking it to the streets.

    However, sometimes God calls for a prophetic move to stir His people to new emerging reforms that seem radical to some and long over due to others. I agree with you that there are women who may be caught in the cross-fire, yet there is Biblical precident for the Spirit of God to hover over chaos and birth new order and leadership in order for His Church to effectively be a conduit for the Kingdom of God to advance missionaly among His creation.

    I pray Grace will prevail, especially for those who feel they have a little 'theology egg' on their face.

  • At 6/22/2006 02:58:00 PM, Blogger Julie

    yeah - my gut response to the procedural thing was that what's done is done. By the logic of something not being valid unless all the correct procedures were followed Texas should not be a state in the Union (a point the modern secessionist often make) ...


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