What do you think . . . ?
Should the Democratic votes cast in Florida and Michigan count?
What do you think the DNC will do?
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Thursday, May 22, 2008
Should the votes count? weigh in
posted by LisaColónDeLay at 1:21 PM
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At 5/22/2008 05:30:00 PM,
Juliehonestly why? As they were cast would not be at all fair. And at this point why spend that much money (millions) on setting up new polls (not to mention what would be spent on campaigning). Yes it sucks that the people of those states didn't have a voice. But Hillary being a sore loser is not excuse enough to waste that much money imho...
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It's interesting to me that Harold Ickes actually voted for stripping Michigan and Florida of their votes, then changed his tune as an advisor to Clinton. I've gotten frustrated with Clinton because it seems like she supports whatever garners her the most votes--and it matters less what is the most fair, just or cost-effective thing to do. I have to agree with everyone else here.
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At 5/25/2008 12:22:00 PM,
LisaColónDeLayWhen Clinton complains about sexism being the problem, that's what gets to me the most. It doesn't help the progress of women to have her cry "sexism" every time she sees she isn't going to make it. She just looks foolish, and she cheapens the word. People, by and large want Obama not her, but it's not about body parts. Thankfully, it's transcending race too!
I think the states trying to usurp the primary rules should not be allowed to work in their favor. The way the primaries run in general seems sort of odd in both parties. I'd like to see that get revamped to a more equitable system--maybe where primaries are all held on the same day, or in the same week, or month. -
Actually, I do not agree with a federal system of primaries that would control when and how they are run. The primary systems are and should be run by the states. It should be messy and ugly and hard to control. There has to be something in this that we the voters ultimately have some say in. The more in this that is controlled at the federal level, the less the little guy/gal has pull. There were several states this year who were surprised that they were important, because they usually aren't. And that wouldn't have happened if things were more controlled.
I know it's been hard, messy and torturous ... but Hillary's real personality has ultimately been revealed through this. As has Barack's.
i live in florida, and i didn't vote in the primary because i was told the vote wouldn't count. with 3 kids, working all the time from home, and a million other things that were going on at the time, i thought, "well that's good--i can stay home then."
so i would be absolutely livid if the votes counted the way they were cast. and if i were from michigan i would be doubly so--i mean, one of the candidates wasn't even ON the ballot!
if i had known that a decision would be made to go back and make the votes count, i would have made every effort to cast my vote in the primary. we had friends who voted, saying, "well the rest of the nation will see who matters most to Florida, even if they don't count our votes officially." and then, as we watched the news, we saw that actually not much at all was said about who got the most votes in this state.
i did see something about the DNC talking about maybe splitting the votes 50-50. i guess that would be fine, but then why even do it if it's not going to matter?
and then, it's not really going to matter anyway, since obama already has the majority. (you can read my blog entry and see where i was yesterday and also see that i'm biased on this subject...). :)